There you go, a simple change that actually makes things better, with no new modules or skills. This way lie good things.

Short: Burst tanking will break the balance unless repair bonuses are either nerfed into the ground or replaced with something else .. case in point: ASB .. those damn things find their way, even after being nerfed, onto everything with three mids or more, it is an abomination!

So add a damage bonus to armour repairers, explain it with: "Excess energy from nano.manufacturering within repairer is shunted to weapons systems

Limiting oversized mods as a way to simplify balancing
I completely agree that limiting more modules to certain ship sizes would make my life easier. :)
However giving people the freedom to be creative with fits is part of what makes Eve so great and I don't want to lose that. It's going to take more work and more time but finding a balance without unnecessarily removing player choice is the ideal we're shooting for.

-armor
Pro: Massive amount of Armor

That's why you fit more than one armor repairer.

Actually, yes they do. CPU is not an unlimited resource, and people do are complaining about it in the BC rebalance thread.

Holly war Shield vs Armor keeps rolling...
But among those graphs of reps per second and HP calculation of LSE and 1600 - I dont see almost none comments about Reactive Armor Hardener.
Do you think it's fine, so no need to worry? Or do you think it's so fail that not even worth considering? Did you even try it - in EFT or in EVE itself?

Dont forget shield Harbingers or dual ASB mission Apocalypse Navy Issue.

Wait what? Where was that?

And OMG, it's 3 mil worth of paste in your 100 mil battleship - are you bloody serious?

Indeed. Just took a look at EFT and the AAR although neat, still doesn't float my boat. I compared it to fits I've used in the past and tbh, it's underwhelming to say the least.

So even with the change as it stands now, it's either buffer or shield. Well that's how I feel right now.

If today hyperions perma tanking 2-3k DPS, how we will be counter them tomorrow?

You have to think about it.

Dual web rax is bar none the best rax for solo/small scale pvp.

The increase in speed and dps of the shield ship means jack **** when you can be easily killed by a t1 frig, just saying...

I tested out the Medium AAR today. I was in a Deimos with 1 t2 medium rep and an AAR. It did pretty Good but the Long armor rep cycle time Kinda defeats the idea of a burst tank. I will say cap stability was better since I did not have the AAR actively running. I think it is better but im not sure if it is good enough

Don't overbuff armor.

Of course he might be one of those people who has all his skills in shield tanking and wants shields to be better than armour so he doesn't even need to think about training other tanking skills for any reason whatsoever. *shrugs* You never know who you're dealing with on these forums.

armor is still superior for pvp fleets as it has much higher EHP yealds then shield and saved mids for prop and tackle and/or cap boosters, whilst shield needed ancil booster to minimize the amound of tank slots they lost while also beign able to fit prop and tackle.

i would call it a heatsink rig and make it reduce heat damage to all mods...

something like 30% reduction in heat damage for tech I and 40% for tech II (give it the fittings of a sentry drone rig so you can only fit one per ship)

if you want to make overheating better for active reps just increase thier base boost for overheating... that way it wont mess with the other rigs...

I'm aware that faction cap charges provide more capacitor when consumed in cap booster modules than their corresponding non-faction variants. Do they provide more shield HP when consumed in an ASB? If so, have you looked at creating an LP-store-sourced "special" nanite repair paste that is equivalent?

Obligatory joke: maybe "royal jelly" can be part of the name of the Amarr LP store version?

MDD

In addition to my previous post, another "obvious" alternative is to disallow oversizing of ASBs.

You need 1 of each specific hardener to equal the effectiveness of 2 invulns. 4 slots vs 2 slots does make a big difference.

Not to mention armours 15 resistance modules over shields 9. Oh, and the fact that a DC gives twice as much resistance to armour as it does shields...

How's that? Comparing active tanking of equal (class-wise) ships with equal (meta- and slot-wise) fittings and mods is precisely how we should compare things. I don't see any reason why active armour tanking should be subpar to shield one, especially given how we seem to be retaining a nation hugely oriented towards active armour tanking.

I think one thing really missing for armour is the ability to pick between cap efficiency and peak tank - like what shield has got with its Gist/Pith lineup. While our mods are all the same

You know that the amarr resist bonus is still better for active tanking than a rep amount bonus?

armour tanking is still somewhat handicapped compared to ASB's as AAR's require nanite paste on top of needing cap boosters for cap.
Then with the slower cycle time the rep amount isn't even close and their is a limit of one per ship.
Also the gal bc's bonus isn't enough to make them worth using maybe 10% bonus and a buff to armour rep amount on AAR's/armour reps in general and then less cap usage would help with the sustainable reps but once the paste runs out i don't think the AAR's will be much use with the 3/4 rep amount i think should be removed as the ASB doesn't give you less rep amount with no cap boosters.
And the overheating rig could be a saving grace BUT how useful will it be if it just burns the AAR to smithereens after a few reps?
Some extra thought is needed to balance these to make them worth using over ASB's .
Extra HP amount on armour reppers might help ... i say help more a case of mandatory to make the overheating rig viable.

problem is the longer cycle time is the advantage over the ASB's as it will last longer on higher reps as when the paste is used the AAR is next to useless and rigs/skills already reduce cycle time so it needs to be about higher reps and less cap as to differentiate from shield reps and reduce the need for cap boosters and paste as their is a finite amount of cargo space